Oral History With Dot Queen Conner
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Oral History With Dot Queen Conner
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Oral history discussing Dot Conner's connection to the logging industry.
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Interviewer
Becca Rhinehart
Interviewee
Dot Queen Conner
Location
Jackson County Genealogical Society
Transcription
Becca Rhinehart: Okay, so what’s your full name?
Dot Conner: Dorothy Queen Conner
BR: And are you aware you’re being recorded right now?
DC: Yes
BR: Um let’s start just start telling me a little bit about how your family is connected to the Washington State migration.
DC: Well, I have a lot of family member I have a lot of family living out there. My dad and most of his family went out there in the mid 40’s. Daddy went out in 1947. He worked in the logging industry for one season and come home. I was a little girl, I started first grade that year. He came home that fall very sick with double pneumonia but his intentions were we were going to move out there the next year, the next spring. But then my mother didn’t really want to because of her family all being here. So, we didn’t move out there. But he had a, let’s see a brother, his sister and her family and then my mother had one brother who had went out there in the mid 30’s lived and passed away out there. And so many others. I just have an awful lot of family out there in Skagit County, Sedro Wooley, Limen, Darrigton and all those places and most of them worked in the logging industry.
BR: Um can you tell me a little about Ernest Queen, I think you’re somehow related to him?
DC: Well Ernest and I are double first cousins. Well Ernest passed away in 2016 uh 2015 I’m sorry I believe it was 2015, a couple of years ago. But Ernest went out there in 1955, I remember so many people were leaving. And It had a big impact I mean even as a child, everybody is leaving. But they really left to better themselves and find a job that paid more money. He went and I think he worked in the timber business for a while and then he got into dairy farming. And of course, my family is musical and so is Ernest and his family. He really worked hard in bluegrass he loved bluegrass and was part of the bluegrass festival up in Darrington. I’ve been to his home and his wife and children still live out there or most of them do.
BR: Um so you grew up on Caney Fork, was the migration, why do you think so many people left Caney Fork in such big numbers to go to Washinton?
DC: Well I think some family members probably had gone earlier, most of my family that I remember left like in the mid 40’s, 45, 46, 47 somewhere in there. They really left because of lack of work here and the ones that had done logging and done that here the timber was just gone. I mean ya know they went out there because it was I guess the first ones come back and told them. I know one of my uncles said its Gods country. So it was a better way of life. It was a job and better pay and they could make a good living and buy a home and some of them come back but the majority stayed.
BR: You said you’ve been to Washington State recently, can you tell me a little bit about what makes it still feel like home there?
DC: Well, the mountains the scenery, I mean there’s just so much in common with Jackson County. And so many people. And when you get to Sedro Wooley and you park and you think it could almost be Sylva, there’s a big resemblance and then there’s so many people or there was for me and family that it just felt like going home.
BR: Were there big similiaries in like the churches and the Appalachian culture being transported to Washington State?
DC: Yes I think so. There was still the I’ll call it the little country churches and a lot of the singing a lot of the music and a lot of the same food. And Of course, there were a lot of southern cooks from back here that you know that it just migrated West. A lot of similarities.
BR: Do you think the music really helped hold the Appalachian culture and make a sense of home up there like with the Darrington Music Festival being started?
DC: Oh yes, yes I do.
BR: Can you just tell me anything else I don’t have many more specific questions for you. Is there anything else you want to tell me?
DC: Well I have not been to other to too many localities. I mean of course you fly into Seattle and then you know we always drove onto Sedro Wooley and Limen because my sister lived in Limen. Most of my family lived in Skagit Valley and sedrowooley limen and darrington. It’s just beautiful country good food flowers Just so many beautiful yards and flowers and trees, all the things I love. And the one thing and I always comment about this to my husband, is just the big wide open spaces, farming country and just big along with of course the logging and all of that the timber and all of that. Early on some of the trees that couldn’t be made into lumber was pulp Scott Paper. I love the wide-open spaces all the just, it’s just a beautiful place. But I will say this, it’s a long way from Jackson County, a long trip but it’s well worth the trip.
BR: So did having your family split up like that cause a difference in the Jackson County community back home while everyone else was in Washington?
DC: Well I think. What I remember first, the season my dad worked out there I think if, I was a little girl and daddy was gone for the summer, we had to help, I have a brother older than me and my sister that lived out there. We were the three oldest so we had a heavy burden that summer helping mother because we were small. But we weren’t the only ones you know. And yes, there was and when we had family get togethers or somebody passed away or whatever was going on in my family. My sister that lived out there was always missing because she couldn’t afford to make the trip back here for just the little things. But I’m sure but then when she did come, and I know this is true for other families when they come home it was a grand occasion we celebrated you know. So I mean early on, I mean there was lots of letters and cards and pictures and so you were always connected. I mean you know with us writing or sending or her or other family members I mean you always felt connected even when we didn’t have all this terminology that we have today to be connected. But and oh yeah, they were certainly missed. It was like a piece of the puzzle wasn’t there. But you know we accepted that because that’s what they I mean that’s where they had gone and they were bettering themselves so you know we were happy for them.
BR: Can you tell me the stories you remember from your dad and the logging industry?
DC: Well like I said I was a little girl like in I had started first grade that fall. We were so excited about daddy coming home. I remember that he come home on the train and he was sick. I think he was sick when he left out there. But when he got home he had double pneumonia, just really really sick. And We were so concerned of course daddy didn’t tell us much at that time but later on he worked I’m pretty sure that my dad worked for Scott Paper up in Hamilton. And they had logging camps and he lived in one of those. I know that one of his buddies out there after he come back one of my brothers was born and they named him after his friend out there that he had shared a logging camp with a logging camp yeah. And then when he got better you know he told us all about the moss backs that’s what they’re called out there moss backs because they have a lot of rain a lot of rain and dampness and of course we’re the tar heels so there you go. But he loved it out there. He really did and met an awful lot of people. And it was probably, I know it had been the farthest he’s ever been away from home in his life. Yeah and being away from his family. At the time there was he had four, there was four children his wife and us four were home. And then when he came home you know there was a concern about his health but he got better and things got better and he always always talked about Washington and how much he loved it and what a good experience the logging season he worked and what a good experience it had been in his life. Oh the one thing I was going to say, when my dad came home my youngest brother at the time was probably about 3 but he didn’t remember daddy so he was you know when he first came back he was a little hesitant. But you know he had to learn all over as a 3 year old, daddy. Daddy come home.
BR: That’s really interesting.
DC: Pardon?
BR: That’s interesting how that worked out
DC: Yeah, it’s just an awful lot of memories good memories and like I said you know we all had a great fondness for Washington even before we ever, I know I did before I ever made the first trip out there. I knew Washington and family and the timber business was the big drawing card for most of them and a big impact on a lot of our lives.
BR: So the stories coming back from Washington really got you interested in the area?
DC: Oh yeah daddy talking about Washington and my uncles. Of course most of his family went out there stayed. Him, and well my daddy and one brother come back yeah we always I always wanted to go and couldn’t wait. And you know it’s just the its just we almost lived out there, I almost growed up out there. So you know I have great memories great memories of Washington from a little girl until now. And I’ve made several trips and and I’m always excited to see how much progress has been made out there and you know but it’s a great place.
Dot Conner: Dorothy Queen Conner
BR: And are you aware you’re being recorded right now?
DC: Yes
BR: Um let’s start just start telling me a little bit about how your family is connected to the Washington State migration.
DC: Well, I have a lot of family member I have a lot of family living out there. My dad and most of his family went out there in the mid 40’s. Daddy went out in 1947. He worked in the logging industry for one season and come home. I was a little girl, I started first grade that year. He came home that fall very sick with double pneumonia but his intentions were we were going to move out there the next year, the next spring. But then my mother didn’t really want to because of her family all being here. So, we didn’t move out there. But he had a, let’s see a brother, his sister and her family and then my mother had one brother who had went out there in the mid 30’s lived and passed away out there. And so many others. I just have an awful lot of family out there in Skagit County, Sedro Wooley, Limen, Darrigton and all those places and most of them worked in the logging industry.
BR: Um can you tell me a little about Ernest Queen, I think you’re somehow related to him?
DC: Well Ernest and I are double first cousins. Well Ernest passed away in 2016 uh 2015 I’m sorry I believe it was 2015, a couple of years ago. But Ernest went out there in 1955, I remember so many people were leaving. And It had a big impact I mean even as a child, everybody is leaving. But they really left to better themselves and find a job that paid more money. He went and I think he worked in the timber business for a while and then he got into dairy farming. And of course, my family is musical and so is Ernest and his family. He really worked hard in bluegrass he loved bluegrass and was part of the bluegrass festival up in Darrington. I’ve been to his home and his wife and children still live out there or most of them do.
BR: Um so you grew up on Caney Fork, was the migration, why do you think so many people left Caney Fork in such big numbers to go to Washinton?
DC: Well I think some family members probably had gone earlier, most of my family that I remember left like in the mid 40’s, 45, 46, 47 somewhere in there. They really left because of lack of work here and the ones that had done logging and done that here the timber was just gone. I mean ya know they went out there because it was I guess the first ones come back and told them. I know one of my uncles said its Gods country. So it was a better way of life. It was a job and better pay and they could make a good living and buy a home and some of them come back but the majority stayed.
BR: You said you’ve been to Washington State recently, can you tell me a little bit about what makes it still feel like home there?
DC: Well, the mountains the scenery, I mean there’s just so much in common with Jackson County. And so many people. And when you get to Sedro Wooley and you park and you think it could almost be Sylva, there’s a big resemblance and then there’s so many people or there was for me and family that it just felt like going home.
BR: Were there big similiaries in like the churches and the Appalachian culture being transported to Washington State?
DC: Yes I think so. There was still the I’ll call it the little country churches and a lot of the singing a lot of the music and a lot of the same food. And Of course, there were a lot of southern cooks from back here that you know that it just migrated West. A lot of similarities.
BR: Do you think the music really helped hold the Appalachian culture and make a sense of home up there like with the Darrington Music Festival being started?
DC: Oh yes, yes I do.
BR: Can you just tell me anything else I don’t have many more specific questions for you. Is there anything else you want to tell me?
DC: Well I have not been to other to too many localities. I mean of course you fly into Seattle and then you know we always drove onto Sedro Wooley and Limen because my sister lived in Limen. Most of my family lived in Skagit Valley and sedrowooley limen and darrington. It’s just beautiful country good food flowers Just so many beautiful yards and flowers and trees, all the things I love. And the one thing and I always comment about this to my husband, is just the big wide open spaces, farming country and just big along with of course the logging and all of that the timber and all of that. Early on some of the trees that couldn’t be made into lumber was pulp Scott Paper. I love the wide-open spaces all the just, it’s just a beautiful place. But I will say this, it’s a long way from Jackson County, a long trip but it’s well worth the trip.
BR: So did having your family split up like that cause a difference in the Jackson County community back home while everyone else was in Washington?
DC: Well I think. What I remember first, the season my dad worked out there I think if, I was a little girl and daddy was gone for the summer, we had to help, I have a brother older than me and my sister that lived out there. We were the three oldest so we had a heavy burden that summer helping mother because we were small. But we weren’t the only ones you know. And yes, there was and when we had family get togethers or somebody passed away or whatever was going on in my family. My sister that lived out there was always missing because she couldn’t afford to make the trip back here for just the little things. But I’m sure but then when she did come, and I know this is true for other families when they come home it was a grand occasion we celebrated you know. So I mean early on, I mean there was lots of letters and cards and pictures and so you were always connected. I mean you know with us writing or sending or her or other family members I mean you always felt connected even when we didn’t have all this terminology that we have today to be connected. But and oh yeah, they were certainly missed. It was like a piece of the puzzle wasn’t there. But you know we accepted that because that’s what they I mean that’s where they had gone and they were bettering themselves so you know we were happy for them.
BR: Can you tell me the stories you remember from your dad and the logging industry?
DC: Well like I said I was a little girl like in I had started first grade that fall. We were so excited about daddy coming home. I remember that he come home on the train and he was sick. I think he was sick when he left out there. But when he got home he had double pneumonia, just really really sick. And We were so concerned of course daddy didn’t tell us much at that time but later on he worked I’m pretty sure that my dad worked for Scott Paper up in Hamilton. And they had logging camps and he lived in one of those. I know that one of his buddies out there after he come back one of my brothers was born and they named him after his friend out there that he had shared a logging camp with a logging camp yeah. And then when he got better you know he told us all about the moss backs that’s what they’re called out there moss backs because they have a lot of rain a lot of rain and dampness and of course we’re the tar heels so there you go. But he loved it out there. He really did and met an awful lot of people. And it was probably, I know it had been the farthest he’s ever been away from home in his life. Yeah and being away from his family. At the time there was he had four, there was four children his wife and us four were home. And then when he came home you know there was a concern about his health but he got better and things got better and he always always talked about Washington and how much he loved it and what a good experience the logging season he worked and what a good experience it had been in his life. Oh the one thing I was going to say, when my dad came home my youngest brother at the time was probably about 3 but he didn’t remember daddy so he was you know when he first came back he was a little hesitant. But you know he had to learn all over as a 3 year old, daddy. Daddy come home.
BR: That’s really interesting.
DC: Pardon?
BR: That’s interesting how that worked out
DC: Yeah, it’s just an awful lot of memories good memories and like I said you know we all had a great fondness for Washington even before we ever, I know I did before I ever made the first trip out there. I knew Washington and family and the timber business was the big drawing card for most of them and a big impact on a lot of our lives.
BR: So the stories coming back from Washington really got you interested in the area?
DC: Oh yeah daddy talking about Washington and my uncles. Of course most of his family went out there stayed. Him, and well my daddy and one brother come back yeah we always I always wanted to go and couldn’t wait. And you know it’s just the its just we almost lived out there, I almost growed up out there. So you know I have great memories great memories of Washington from a little girl until now. And I’ve made several trips and and I’m always excited to see how much progress has been made out there and you know but it’s a great place.
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“Oral History With Dot Queen Conner,” Hunter Library Omeka Collections, accessed December 24, 2024, https://digitalhumanities.wcu.edu/omeka/items/show/231.